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TINA DiCARLO

Winy Maas: Forbidding the Re

2009
SPOKEN at The Building, Berlin, 21 May 2009, for Mono.Kultur #18 MVRDV: On Statics and Statistics, interview by Carson Chan

THE Talk in Brief

Design Statement: MVRDV pursues a fascination for radical methodical research: on density and on public realms. Through investigation and use of the complex amounts of data that accompany contemporary design processes, spaces are shaped methodically.

Re-Buttal: Hello Winy. Nice to see you again. I wondered tonight rather than having yet another nice conversation we could engage in a bit of a debate verging on the polemical or touch, inhabiting areas of tension, if only to make everything a bit less smooth and a bit less boring.
You know I am a follower and also an advocate of your work from my time at MoMA. I had aimed to bring several works such as the SILODAM into the collection to position MVRDV within a sort of modernist history, as well as stage a platform for KM3 to re-inforce your contemporary relevance and importance.

My questions tonight though are a bit about redundancy and economy, with regards to the focus of your practice, the focus of your research, and the repetition of method. The questions aim to be provocative, and perhaps to draw on a ask everything that you might want to know about MVRDV but were afraid to ask.
I’d like to think of this talk as an act of infiltration of sorts, as perhaps as inhabiting those gaps, these areas of opportunity or potential, which are in fact places of tension or are a bit uncomfortable, but are in the end the most interesting because of this. In a way we could think of this as taking a cue from the interview with Carson, in which the method in the office is an act of infiltration — to engage in a position that seems to attack architecture — for example in one of your earliest projects such as WoZoCo, which appropriates or occupies what has heretofore been an unclaimed space, to somehow extend the building. This project positioned MVRDV within the discourse, of occupying unclaimed space, though arguably there is always the lineage from OMA.

So if we think of the talk tonight as infiltrating and prying open these niches, to insert another point of view, and to tease out some issues in these unclaimed spaces such as:
• the gaps between M – VR -DV;
• the gaps in the discourse between you and Carson Chan;
• the gaps between what has come to be seen as the difficultly of an identity and a position of partisanship, as Carson sees it, a position “that is too accepting of the mainstream techno-messianic rhetoric to be critics, and too programmatic and instrumental to be proper visionaries;”
• between the “arrangement of parallel, intersecting, colliding and discrepant ideas,” within the multimedia dialogue of the office.

Consider it a GAME — which is also a word I know you like — and you and I worthy opponents. I also imagine that you think a bit of resistance is always good.

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